lesleycock (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What length are the series 3 and 4 chains that are tested in this video, 1 metre?

heathenwalking (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Would work, but they are noisy, and most likely have to be petrol driven, more noise. Noise is exactly what a thief does not want. It would still take a while to cut through anyway.

CaptainCropper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

No, the cutting tonnage needed to cut either Almax is way above what croppers can take, even with extensions, the blades either bend or break, they just aren't made for the job. We have to sacrifice bolt croppers on Almaxes to show faith in the product.

mooosestang (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Why didn't they use the extension? With enough leverage, you'd think they could cut it.

CaptainCropper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Drew, use the padlocks that come with the chain. They have an excellent reputation and use high quality barrels. Any ground anchor that you can get a 19mm chain though is likely to be huge and therefore, well up to the job. Again, Almax only sell stuff that actually works, so it's probably better (and cheaper) to get a package deal from them.

drewie3000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Fantastic Videos. I'm new to biking, haven't got a bike yet, or a licence for that matter (DAS booked in 2 weeks). Just out of curiosity though, as everything is only as strong as its' weakest link what padlock should be used with the "indestructable" ALMAX chain. Also if thieves can rip up signposts, how much use are ground anchors/which ones are best? Cheers, Drew

CaptainCropper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'll put this in the right place now. Sound advice Applehead. I know of at least one person who lost his bike to this, they tore the sign out of the ground along with 2 paving slabs. Luckily the bike was recovered with the Almax still hanging off the back wheel! Also, securing anchors to walls that can be kicked down is a bad idea.

CaptainCropper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sound advice. I know of at least one person who lost his bike to this, they tore the sign out of the ground along with 2 paving slabs. Luckily the bike was recovered with the Almax still hanging off the back wheel! Also, securing anchors to walls that can be kicked down is a bad idea.

UGApplehead (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Datatag is good too, and a decent alarm. I would say buy all the security you can afford. Yes wheels can be taken off, but the more time the thief has to spend at your bike the less likely they are to nick it. there are much easier targets than having to first use an angle grinder!! Also, its such a false economy buying cheaper security, i mean what is £150 for a £4000 bike..? Thanks CaptainCropper

UGApplehead (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well i have to say thanks, just got my new bike after passing my test and have been looking for a decent lock. so glad i properly researched this as i would've spent £170 on an ABUS that isnt worth a shit! i've heard lots of great things about this lock, so have purchased the series III with Squire stronghold. Remember to chain it to lamp posts as opposed to streetsigns as theses can be easily rocked back and forth with pressure and the thing comes up out the ground. how they got my moped!